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Post by Harvest Ty Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:49 pm

X'D
This may seem a little out there but I'm really curious to Smithing's effects on the PM world. You guys wrote Jitter's BG right? But the fact that she already exists in the world and is famous, makes me wonder...By smithing are we completely altering the original path of the world, by interjecting new souls into it? (Ie We're changing what should happen by adding souls)
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Post by Shailsnic Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:52 pm

A. We're creating a completely alternate timeline compared to the original
B. We're looking at an already existing timeline and soulsmithing is just a way to gain access to that timeline
C. We're completely altering the memories of everyone and thing that existed so that it doesn't seem like anything has changed, adding new memories and deleting old ones.

Those are my guesses.
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Post by LoganAura Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:53 pm

I personally prefer A or B. C... seems a bit creepy I:
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Post by Shailsnic Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:54 pm

The truth can be a scary one Logan, you never know~
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Post by LoganAura Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:55 pm

8I
Honestly, the only thing is that if someone made a soul with the intent to be "Ruler of all creation"... They could viably do that 8I
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Post by Todd Ingram Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:56 pm

I think the Smithing world is "our world", kind of. Whereas the adventure is the story. The world of the story is created by those in the Smithing world. WHen characters are created, their story begins at a certain age, not at birth. Their life before their story begins has happened, but not to the perspective of our world.

ugh its late and I could have worded that better
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Post by Harvest Ty Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:03 pm

Oh yea that would makes some sense. So it's like Homestucks naming of the kids. They already teally had names, but we still "entered them". At least I think....

Unless PM & the EGO world are actually connected(Then if that's true...I don't know...)
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Post by Shailsnic Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:13 pm

LoganAura wrote:8I
Honestly, the only thing is that if someone made a soul with the intent to be "Ruler of all creation"... They could viably do that 8I

...Logan, you have a Humor profile do you not? Technically us soulsmiths are in fact rulers of creations. It's not just viable, it's something that is already confirmed to be able to happen.
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Post by LoganAura Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:13 pm

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*Rebooting. Rebooting. Tebooting. We're sorry, Logan.exe has crashed.*
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Post by Todd Ingram Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:16 pm

I don't think it's a logical bomb that smithers have souls. Maybe there was one person in the E.G.O. realm who discovered the nature of the soul and humors, and began creating entire worlds and thus beginning the long-running tradition of smithing! I imagine it wouldn't have started off smoothly, though: someone with a power trip might have gone crazy and made armies, or tried to mess with his own recipe or...agh I have to stop before I begin writing any fanfic.
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Post by Shailsnic Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:22 pm

Todd I. wrote:I don't think it's a logical bomb that smithers have souls. Maybe there was one person in the E.G.O. realm who discovered the nature of the soul and humors, and began creating entire worlds and thus beginning the long-running tradition of smithing! I imagine it wouldn't have started off smoothly, though: someone with a power trip might have gone crazy and made armies, or tried to mess with his own recipe or...agh I have to stop before I begin writing any fanfic.

Stop saying that Todd, creativity is a good thing! If you don't want to write a fanfic, this seems like a really good scenario for a roleplay! I know I'd definitely want to take the role of one of the madman's own creations that rebelled against him, one of the few he lost track of and that realized there is in fact a fourth wall, something along those lines. Creation vs. Master is always a pretty good scenario really.

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Post by Harvest Ty Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:25 pm

Kinda like how authors create universes in stories, Smiths create souls, just more aware of there creation? Who knows,..

That would make a good rp, now that you mention it... :'o
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Post by CrimsonMage Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:02 pm

I think its like making a prequel book to a series. The events in the prequel are referred to and exist in the character's minds, but we don't know about it yet. The author creates the prequel book and suddenly we know about it and the events in the prequel book is created... but the characters already know about it. It's kind of like a fate thing now that I think about it...
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Post by Dreamscythes231 Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:58 am

So just a thought.Who was the original soulsmith?
Who soulsmithed us?
Is our story just a memory and we just were created now?
When will I stop asking question?
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Post by truebug Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:06 am

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Post by Harvest Ty Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:08 am

That is exactly what Malac is based off of.

also.
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Post by turtleOracle Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:05 am

Oh my god :O

So much interesting questions !

Now my head is full of "?"...

(Also that moving star thing under your avatar kinda hypnotises me trueBug... Up... Down... Up...)

More seriously, maybe there's one world above the E.G.O World, them smithing us. But because of our... "smithience" (mix of smith and sentience), we could determine our recipes ? And maybe there is an infinity of succeeding world, one above another ?

I don't know if what I wrote is understandable, as my english is not perfect.
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Post by Dreamscythes231 Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:12 am

Wait...what if it is not infinite, what if the highest soulsmiths are the characters? Like B.B and Clyde's world can make souls of the soulsmiths who smithed us and the chain is actually a circle? What if there is a soulsmith in the character world that smithed the soul smiths for soulsmiths.

What if are task is to make a paradox(A.K.A making a the soulsmith) to justify our existence.

Dun dun dun...
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Post by turtleOracle Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:15 am

THE PLOT THICKENS
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Post by Todd Ingram Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:22 pm

SPOILER ALERT: The entire world is on the back of a Giant Koopa.

That Koopa is on the back of a larger Koopa.

My dear, it's Koopas all the way down.


In seriousness, I think that Council that Chet mentioned would have to be a pretty large governing body. Keeping order in a place where people can make entire worlds with living beings in them is a big job, and it's no surprise that there are rulebreakers among the righteous. Good thing we're under the tutelage of gS and his crew!
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Post by Harvest Ty Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:08 pm

But well it's not like gS hasn't done bad things himself... >->

(Poor BB)

The council's an intetesting thought...Maybe since Chet is a part of it, he can travel around(Like how he's wanted in the MK)
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Post by turtleOracle Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:16 pm

Well maybe Chet is a special case, being bound to the Mario world, but able to travel to the Concil's world (probably the world above the E.G.O one) and probably the E.G.O one too.

But that thing Todd said is interesting...

Maybe the Smiths above the E.G.O world smiths entire worlds, or even universe in addition to smithing guys.
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Post by turtleOracle Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:03 pm

Oh uh, maybe this should be moved to the Story Discussion section ?
We don't really talk of smithing, but more about the plot, no ?
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Post by Harvest Ty Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:06 pm

Well the topics more about how Smithing has affected the world, it could go in either area.
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Post by CrimsonMage Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:53 pm

BB knows Jitterbug. We created Jitterbug. Unless there's some sort of fate involved and he knew about Jitterbug all along, then we are definitely affecting the world somehow. There's some sort of Soulsmith's code, so other soulsmiths must see the rewriting of memories (or whatever happens) as a morally good act. Which means maybe soulsmiths aren't as benevolent as they seem...
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